At the climbing gym where someone’s got an advert up for a home wall. Regrettably it’s *just* too big to fit in the end of a shipping container, although this is probably a good thing because I don’t really need to add “buy a shipping container” to my todo list.
@jon @jonty @pascoda Actually.... with virtual axes with projection mapping it could be "safer". Like, physical axes but with accelerometers inside and the wii controller like straps, and some kind of physics system... Could be an interesting thing for gamedevs to get involved in more physical stuff, could involve Joe from the arcade tent? (is he on here?)
@pascoda up the outside of a stack of containers, I’m liking it, although possibly drunk climbing above a dance floor is inadvisable.
@jon
how about a non-dancefloor side?
could even be incorporated into the lore, probably (with a non-climbing alternative to explore whatever is above/behind).
@pascoda I am extremely up for this, I’m less up for the insurance/compliance implications of either a) getting proper bouldering mats under it or b) putting (possibly drunk) people who’ve never climbed before in harnesses in the dark.
@pascoda @jonathanhogg hey, we’ve got an installation for you - I’d say it has a very respectable 75% chance of not killing or seriously injuring someone across the duration of the event, which is almost a guarantee.
@jonathanhogg @jon @pascoda can we add in the axe throwing "installation" to this for more fun?
@jonathanhogg @pascoda damn it, now we do have to make this happen because that sounds great.
@jonathanhogg @jon @pascoda LED panel climbing wall that shows the mask of every previous climber overlaid, so you get a blob of meta-human to race against
(you could also do this with projection but that's less cool, easier though)
@jonathanhogg @jon @pascoda (I really want to do this now, damn it)
@jonty @jonathanhogg @pascoda it does seem terrifyingly doable. Biggest problem to solve is probably how to mount climbing holds on an LED wall. Nothing that can’t be solved with a lot of perspex, a laser cutter, and some planning though.
@jonty with axes
my god, @jon , what have we done?
😂
@CatherineFlick @jonty @jonathanhogg @jon @pascoda
everybody please step away from the lathe
@pikesley @jonty @jonathanhogg @jon @pascoda this is what happens when we're all back at work again
@CatherineFlick @pikesley @jonty @jonathanhogg @jon
we get deprivation symptoms and have stupid ideas?
@jon @jonathanhogg @pascoda Prototype should just be a projector, depth camera, and a start button I think. Could probably knock that out in a couple of hours if we had a climbing wall to play with.
@jon @jonty @jonathanhogg
oh, things like that have been built already, I think 😅
.. opening times for the bouldering wall, like with the escape rooms?
@pascoda @jonty @jonathanhogg LED lit holds on boards to highlight different routes set via an app are in basically every gym now. Projection mapping of people’s route across them less so.
@pascoda @jonty @jonathanhogg Me: “I’m going to commit to doing less next time”.
Also me: “But running a bouldering wall in Null Sec does sound amazing”.
@jon you are not going to be doing this
@jon @jonathanhogg @pascoda We could totally pull off a bouldering wall like this at EMF though.
Or... https://www.jmentertainment.co.uk/category/climbing-walls/316/rock-climbing-wall-hire
@jonathanhogg @jon @pascoda Might be fun to just take a depth camera to the climbing wall one day and record a wall for a few hours to see what it might look like
@jonty @jonathanhogg @pascoda I’m very tempted to give this a go now, especially if it’s not at too much of an angle I reckon you could get really good distinction between wall, holds, and climber.
@jon @jonathanhogg @pascoda If only we had this idea when nullsec WAS SET IN A QUARRY
@jonty @jon @jonathanhogg @pascoda oh fuck yeah! I'm totally down to bring my rock shoes to EMF 2028 😁
@jon @jonathanhogg @pascoda Oh, also, if you use a projector you can projection map the holds...
ha, here we go, some examples:
https://www.valomotion.com/valoclimb
https://www.dfki.de/fileadmin/user_upload/import/9309_ClimbVis.pdf
the last one is with/by @flowdie , it seems?
@pascoda @jonty @jonathanhogg so what if we did games like that but actually good? I’m thinking black wall, black holds, big projector so that basically anything not active is invisible. Will this result in people banging their knees/knuckles on holds they can’t see? Almost certainly, but it would look amazing.
@pascoda @jon @jonathanhogg @flowdie None of these are what I'm imagining, but also I guess I'm coming at it from an art perspective rather than climbing gamification..
@jonty @pascoda @jonathanhogg @flowdie@hci.social most of them have the same vibes as the endless work social bars which have taken some sort of low tech pub game and slapped a projector over it.
@jonty @pascoda @jonathanhogg similarly to darts climbing doesn’t need gamifying in that manner, it’s already got progression systems and a near endless supply of new levels, particularly once you get into board climbing.
@pascoda @jonty @jonathanhogg put it on the Null Sec dance floor and have the target hold change to the beat, then hope your slot isn’t during a happy hardcore set or you’ll die keeping up.
@jonathanhogg @pascoda @jon OF COURSE YOU WERE. Never stop surprising me.
@jonty @jonathanhogg @pascoda @jon I came to suggest projection mapping but I see it’s already been hoisted into the pot of probability.
@CatherineFlick @jonathanhogg @pascoda certainly having axes thrown at you would incentivise getting good at speed climbing.